Painting White AFV's

Peewee · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: Painting White AFV's

I've got a little side-project running at the mo that needs some white 'UN' AFV's.

I've never painted all white stuff before. Has anyone got any hints and tips?

Thanks chaps and chapesses!
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Theo · Bad Influence Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 5055

vallejo stone grey
vallejo silvergrey
vallejo offwhite
vallejo white

The recipe is Timmo's and it has saved me where white is concerned.

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valleyboy · General Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Posts: 3533 Location: NZ

in the following order
vallejo light grey
vallejo medium sea grey
vallejo london grey
vallejo black grey
vallejo black Crazy foo

Well c'mon if Peewee says white one of at least has to say black Laugh

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Duck Crusader · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject:

Don't forget the big yellow stripe down the back...
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bangorstu · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:08 pm Post subject:

Uncalled for Duck, and frankly a slur on some exceptionally brave men and women.
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bangorstu · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:14 pm Post subject:

Just because I'm feeling crabby, I'll point out the UN have ungone combat operations in Congo recently - search for MONUC, the vehicles seem to be painted white despite doing some fighting.

And you get the charm of using Guatemalan gunships....

Oh, and of course I can remember the US armed forces being exceptionally glad to see some white-painted armour on a certain occasion in Mogadishu....
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Greystreak · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject:

If you'd worn the Blue Beret, and been in the sh*t yourself, you'd never say that, Duck. Drive on.
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There ar a few assumptions to be made. The UN vehicles tended to be workshop painted rather than whitewashed so the white didn't wear off so quickly & was usually more neatly applied. That said, there could be oversplash onto tyres & tools, which may have been removed. Wheels & lower hull may not get painted. White won't stay that way for long, with dust & mud splattering being very quickly apparent. Areas of high traffic will wear, showing the underlying camouflage paint quite quickly.

I'd use a fairly 'pure' white as a base coat, perhaps with a touch of dark blue or black, then a thin blackwash, highlighting with a very light gray & then dust, mud, rainstreaks etc to taste.

DCs comments not withstanding, I think this says "now **** off and behave" quite well!

And who makes figures for these?

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Eclaireur · Private Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 22

Bryce - are you saying you wore the blue beret ? I so that's something we have in common apart from the Wagram game ;) Of course, I know the Canadians have a distinguished history in that regard...
Duck - what you've got to factor in is how impossibly difficult the political mandates are of so many of these UN missions. It leaves the soldiers, quite often literally, between the devil and the deep blue sea.

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I remember reading of the relief expressed by the soldiers engaged in one of the Balkan peacekeeping missions as they changed from a UN badged to a NATO badged (& hence more robust ROE) force.
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Duck Crusader · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:10 am Post subject:

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bangorstu · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:17 am Post subject:

The problem is always with the politicians - remember if the troops break the ROE they are liable for prosecution.

Calling the troops cowards is frankly disgusting. You don't seem to mind the same troops (British, Canadians, Dutch etc) when they're fighting in Afghanistan.
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brian horrocks · General Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 3098

I wouldnt go for a pristine solid white finish id go for a light overspray or wash over a light grey,i think solid white would look a bit 'toy like' Smile

Greystreak · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:07 am Post subject:

Eclaireur · Private Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 22

Bryce - just one assignment but clearly a very tough one. I recall hearing stories about the events at the Ledra Palace during the Turkish invasion but it sounds like your people were in the thick of that.
By the time of my little stay out there, a posting to Cyprus was so benign that it was referred to in the army as 'the Long Wind Surfing Course'.
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Duck Crusader · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject:

Gungnir · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject:

Well, it was founded by the US, so I guess we couldnt ask too much from it in the first place.

Now shall we go back to painting little tanks, please?
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bangorstu · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:18 pm Post subject:

Then you phrased your comment exceptionally badly.

The UN troops are brave enough - Congo isn't exactly a palce for cowards.

The politicians are the problem, not giving storng enough mandates. But then that's a problem all over.

I wouldn't call the American army in Vietnam or Somali cowards, though they withdrew from both places.

The blame goes beyond those in uniform.
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Peewee · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject:

Oops - didn't mean to start a rumble.

Dare I mention that my little side-project wont be actual UN. It'll be a kind of 'private security' type thing. Actually come to think of it I probably shouldn't mention that...

Smile

VB you are a dastardly cur! It's lucky I read all that through before I tried it...
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