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Cornet Major

Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 973 Location: Philadelphia, Pa.
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: Photo of Perry AWI figure(s) |
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Does anyone have a photo of Perry AWI figure(s) juxtaposed with something of a very standard size? I am trying to persuade my father to join me in this hobby, but he was put off by the size of the 15mm figures. He now wants to get a sense of scale of the Perry 28mm figures. Apparently, millimeters do not offer him enough mental purchase.
An American coin would be ideal, but other objects that might work include a spark plug, an iPod, an adult male finger, or a ruler in standard English units. Obviously other objects may be used for comparison, but the challenge is that it's size must be easily recognizable on this side of the pond.
Thank you in advance for your help! _________________ Then let us fill a bumper, and drink a health to those/ Who carry caps and pouches, and wear the loup'ed clothes. |
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Eccles Provost Marshal

Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 20340 Location: Beautiful Chesterfield
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Is a 1964 nickel any good?
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Cornet Major

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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This is excellent. Thank you. Our nickels have been the same size for over 100 years, I believe. _________________ Then let us fill a bumper, and drink a health to those/ Who carry caps and pouches, and wear the loup'ed clothes. |
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Cornet Major

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Are those figures from AW47 and AW29? _________________ Then let us fill a bumper, and drink a health to those/ Who carry caps and pouches, and wear the loup'ed clothes. |
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Ronan the Librarian General

Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 3532 Location: The Wilds of Surrey
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: Photo of Perry AWI figure(s) |
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| Cornet wrote: | | Apparently, millimeters do not offer him enough mental purchase. |
Tell him that makes him an honorary Englishman/Foggy Islander.
| Cornet wrote: | | ....other objects that might work include....an adult male finger........but the challenge is that it's....easily recognizable on this side of the pond. |
A particularly dangerous request on this site. _________________ Muttley, you snickering, cloth-eared hound - when courage is needed, you're never around.
Those medals you wear on that moth-eaten chest, should be there for bungling, at which you are best. |
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Cornet Major

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Heh, True.
That "V" gesture would just be met with a smile and a nod here ... and/or the prompt delivery of two beers. _________________ Then let us fill a bumper, and drink a health to those/ Who carry caps and pouches, and wear the loup'ed clothes. |
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Eccles Provost Marshal

Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 20340 Location: Beautiful Chesterfield
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Indian is from AW29 and the mounted figure is from AW47. _________________ Has anyone seen my little dog? |
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Cornet Major

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Again, thanks. Btw, good job on the painting. The horse is particularly nice, and I envy the precision zigzag on the Indian's gaiters, pants, or whatever he's wearing below the waist. _________________ Then let us fill a bumper, and drink a health to those/ Who carry caps and pouches, and wear the loup'ed clothes. |
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Eccles Provost Marshal

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. I think there is a name for the leggings but I'll be buggered if I can remember what it is. _________________ Has anyone seen my little dog? |
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Cornet Major

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Dad has agreed to give miniatures a try; which means that I'll need to start working in 25/28mm too. C'est la guerre!
Within AWI, which is more easier to paint -- the British or the Continentals? I'd never considered it, but dad wants to know. _________________ Then let us fill a bumper, and drink a health to those/ Who carry caps and pouches, and wear the loup'ed clothes. |
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Duck Crusader General

Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 4152 Location: Somewhere in Kansas
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Eccles wrote: | Is a 1964 nickel any good?
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OI! You give that back! No wonder our economy's collapsing...  _________________ When you're discussing MRE's in terms of acres you know something has gotten truly screwed up. |
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Ronan the Librarian General

Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 3532 Location: The Wilds of Surrey
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Cornet wrote: | | Within AWI, which is more easier to paint -- the British or the Continentals? I'd never considered it, but dad wants to know. |
The detailing on British uniforms is more complex, especially the early war figures with the buttonhole lace etc. An American unit would have simpler styles, but more variety in their clothing (eg some "regular" uniforms, some hunting shirts, some captured stuff, some new recruits still in their civvies, etc).
Err, that probably doesn't help much, does it.........  _________________ Muttley, you snickering, cloth-eared hound - when courage is needed, you're never around.
Those medals you wear on that moth-eaten chest, should be there for bungling, at which you are best. |
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Cornet Major

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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It does a little. That's more or less what I had told him, but it helps to have my educated guess verified.
Did the British abandon the buttonhole lace as the war dragged on? _________________ Then let us fill a bumper, and drink a health to those/ Who carry caps and pouches, and wear the loup'ed clothes. |
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Eccles Provost Marshal

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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You can have that nickel when you pry it from my cold grey fingers. _________________ Has anyone seen my little dog? |
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Ronan the Librarian General

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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I think they probably did and not just among the officers. That said, the Provincial regiments were supposed to be "lace-less" but several of the more prominent corps certainly did - mainly as a distinction in multi-battalion regiments.
And then there's the Continental regiments from the three southernmost States......  _________________ Muttley, you snickering, cloth-eared hound - when courage is needed, you're never around.
Those medals you wear on that moth-eaten chest, should be there for bungling, at which you are best. |
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Cornet Major

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Ronan the Librarian wrote: | And then there's the Continental regiments from the three southernmost States......  |
I thought they were mostly nekkid. _________________ Then let us fill a bumper, and drink a health to those/ Who carry caps and pouches, and wear the loup'ed clothes. |
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Ronan the Librarian General

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, bit they still had lace on them thar buttonholes, sunny.
I suspect it was to distinguish the cold (blue) bits from the uniform coat. _________________ Muttley, you snickering, cloth-eared hound - when courage is needed, you're never around.
Those medals you wear on that moth-eaten chest, should be there for bungling, at which you are best. |
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Cornet Major

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Ronan the Librarian wrote: | | Yeah, bit they still had lace on them thar buttonholes, sunny. |
That's a respectable bit if mimicry. _________________ Then let us fill a bumper, and drink a health to those/ Who carry caps and pouches, and wear the loup'ed clothes. |
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Ronan the Librarian General

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Others worshipped John Wayne, Randolph Scott, and Burt Lancaster. My Western heroes were Slim Pickens and Walter Brennan (I know, I know; I'm still in theraopy and walk with a limp).
Give me Rio Bravo over El Dorado and Rio Lobo, every time.
Yeeeeeh haaa, pardnur.  _________________ Muttley, you snickering, cloth-eared hound - when courage is needed, you're never around.
Those medals you wear on that moth-eaten chest, should be there for bungling, at which you are best. |
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Cornet Major

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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I wasn't a big fan of westerns, but I did occasionally enjoy a John Wayne film: The Horse Soldiers; She Wore A Yellow Ribbon; and similar. Actually, he's fairly watchable in most any of his westerns. And Jack Elam was a hoot. I liked Walter Brennan too, but Slim didn't do much for me.
Did you folks ever get Gunsmoke? _________________ Then let us fill a bumper, and drink a health to those/ Who carry caps and pouches, and wear the loup'ed clothes. |
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Cornet Major

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Erm, so does anyone else have an opinion about which is harder to paint -- British or Continentals? _________________ Then let us fill a bumper, and drink a health to those/ Who carry caps and pouches, and wear the loup'ed clothes. |
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levied troop General

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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From my slight experience there are two factors:
Continentals - a more varied uniform can be more interesting to paint, but can drive you mad finding different shades and trying to come up with sufficent variety.
British - a singular uniform can be faster to paint, but boring and the lace can be fiddly.
it depend sto a large extent on the painter's preferences - an industrious grinder will like British, an indecisive flibbertygibbet will like Continentals.
So far, I like Continentals  _________________ Odo: Against whom and for whom did you fight?
Balian of Ibelin: For one lord against another, on a point which cannot be remembered.
Odo: There's better game now: one God against another. The pay is proportionate. |
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Timmo General

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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I've not painted any Perry AWI but I've done a few of their ECW and about 100 Sudan an although this comment is true to all figures I've found it especially true of the Perry casts:
When I began them they drove me absolutely mad to the point that I simply couldn't work out how people put whole units let alone armies to their models together. However, some way into my Sudan project I can positively crack though them now I've 'learnt' the figures so to speak. However slow your initial start may be don't give up – my first 30 Sudan models were very slow and I shelved the project for over a year before trying again. |
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Cornet Major

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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Are the Perrys still making new AWI sculpts? They don't seem to have much that reflects the early war uniforms for the British, and zero Continental cavalry. _________________ Then let us fill a bumper, and drink a health to those/ Who carry caps and pouches, and wear the loup'ed clothes. |
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Giles Count Suckula

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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Alan Perry made early war Brits and Continental cavalry for his Foundry range, so no need to revisit those particular troop types (although there are occasional rumours that he might at some stage, maybe, do some more Continental cavalry).
I have seen masters of new northern-state militia, but I think Alan wants to make some more packs to build up a decent release, which could take some time given the extent of the company's other projects at the moment. _________________ Has anyone seen my little blog? |
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