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Arthur Sarge

Joined: 03 May 2009 Posts: 100 Location: In the eye of the storm
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: Warlord ECW Metal Pikemen Greens |
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Recently posted on the Warlord website :
Generally speaking, I'm not crazy about the Warlord ECW plastics as there's something about their poses and general appearance that doesn't quite cut it for me. However, these metal pikemen look like they could complement my TAG Thirty Years War figures quite nicely, as I believe they are quite comparable in size and heft.
www.warlordgames.co.uk _________________ 'But apart from the roads, the schools, the sewer system and the efficient administration, what have the Romans ever done for us ?' |
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Theo Bad Influence

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Gungs can you give Arthur here a title like Chief Scout or something? lol
the good fellow keeps us updated with all sorts of interesting tidbits of news!!  |
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Timmo General

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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They look alright to me – not stunning though and the odd proportion is adrift.
Spoilt for choice these days with 28mm ECW, shame there isn't a single decent 15/18mm range IMHO. |
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bangorstu Major General

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 1764 Location: Bangor, Gwynedd
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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I like them - and for the price who can argue?
As a matter of interest, which metal ranges are comparable in size?
I understand Perrys mix in well, as would TAG.
Renegade wouldn't which is damned annoying given their current special offer.....
How about Hinchliffe? _________________ Eryri fynyddig i mi
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bangorstu Major General

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Timmo - what's wrong with Testudo? _________________ Eryri fynyddig i mi
Bro dawel y delyn yw. |
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Theo Bad Influence

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Stu I think Tim by omiitting mention of Testudo alludes to the fact that we can't seem to find a way to buy Testudo. The firm seems to have gone bust. We both love the range and I for one would get loads of them if I could.  |
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bangorstu Major General

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Theo Bad Influence

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| yes to my knowledge mate. Maybe someone knows different. I would be very interested to know indeed! |
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Timmo General

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Theo wrote: | Stu I think Tim by omiitting mention of Testudo alludes to the fact that we can't seem to find a way to buy Testudo. The firm seems to have gone bust. We both love the range and I for one would get loads of them if I could.  |
Yup. Testudo are/were lovely figures and were they available again I may well start a second ECW project.
I would have thought Eureka were the perfect solution and Fighting 15s the UK distributor but I seem to recall reading (probably on TMP) that they tried and failed to get the Testudo moulds and the Polly Oliver ones too.
Real shame as, for all sorts of reasons 18mm is my favourite wargames size. |
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Prince of Darkness Lieu Colonel

Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 1275 Location: Giles' coffin
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| The only Warlord ECW metals I have seen (and painted) are the artillery crew and they are small figs - compatible with Perry and TAG but nothing else. The sculpts are also quite thin - thinner in fact than Perry. So I will interested to see how these turn out. I will also be interested to see how Warlord market them, in that "we're obviously ex-GW " way of theirs.... |
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Etranger General

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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:43 am Post subject: |
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I've got some of the Warlord plastics & they're ok to my eyes & should fit in reasonably well as rank & file alongside Perry, TAG & Foundry figures. Their pikes are commendably thin. These new greens look ok to me.
As far as 15/18mm go I'd disagree with Timmo to some extent in that there are some nice ranges out there. The general also takes issue!
This current TMP thread summarises the situation quite nicely. There are however similar issues with figure compatibility in 15/18mm. http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=171277
BTW there's a Eureka 300 Club request for 18mm ECW figures too. _________________ "If technology annoys you, I highly recommend shooting it to death. It's very cleansing......" |
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Arthur Sarge

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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:52 am Post subject: |
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My Thirty years War pike blocks could use a bit of variety : I'm using the TAG range which only offers two poses, standing and marching - to which I should add the English pikemen advancing at porte.
The chap above receiving cavalry with drawn sword might be just the thing I'm looking for to jazz up the front rank. So far, TAG and Warlord have been perfectly compatible, so I'm reasonably optimistic. But as you say Giles, we'll see how these turn out when they're released.  _________________ 'But apart from the roads, the schools, the sewer system and the efficient administration, what have the Romans ever done for us ?' |
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Arthur Sarge

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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:58 am Post subject: |
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| Theo wrote: | Gungs can you give Arthur here a title like Chief Scout or something? lol
the good fellow keeps us updated with all sorts of interesting tidbits of news!!  |
Very nice of you to say so, Theo (or should I say Master Hobbit ?), but truth be told, I'm not that much of a scout : I'm just posting about things that catch my fancy or draw my attention, really. _________________ 'But apart from the roads, the schools, the sewer system and the efficient administration, what have the Romans ever done for us ?' |
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Timmo General

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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Yup sorry I think I was in a grumpy moment but I remember seeing the Testudos and thinking they were so good that they remain my memory of 15/18mm ECW. I really did very seriously consider doing ECW over again with big units of them, then the figures disappeared and with it my notion of ECW being possible with beautiful 15mm.
Aslo probably worth mentioning I'm stuck with 25mm Minifigs ECWs so my own figures are hardly state-of-the-art!
Re the Warlords I can't work out why the last pikeman is about to get into the thick of the fight but his helmet is still stuck on this belt as was often the case when marching. Then again from what re-enactors have said a wide brim hat is useless for a pikeman – it gets in the way. Sorry Warlord but when I met you at Salute you told me that yours were the ONLY figures that have EVER got the head gear totally right… Hmmmm
Equally why is one guy is in fully armour with tassets but no helmet and again a wide brim hat?
Right I'm being grumpy again. |
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Giles Count Suckula

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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Sorry Warlord but when I met you at Salute you told me that yours were the ONLY figures that have EVER got the head gear totally right… Hmmmm |
I confess to finding Warlord's general hype and bluster increasingly irritating... Compare to the Perries, Artizan and a whole host of others who just release stuff without ever claiming to be the "best" or "most accurate" etc. _________________ Has anyone seen my little blog? |
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bangorstu Major General

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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Agreed their bluster is annoying - as are some of their metals prices which can be eye-watering.
But I like the plastic figures - round here the kiddies use them as Empire troops for Warhammer. _________________ Eryri fynyddig i mi
Bro dawel y delyn yw. |
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bangorstu Major General

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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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No names, no pack drill but apaprently Warlord aren't exactly good at replying to trade e-mails or indeed getting orders right..... _________________ Eryri fynyddig i mi
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Big Dave Lieu General

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Giles Count Suckula

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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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I've placed two orders with them and both have arrived very quickly, with regular email updates on progress and 100% accurate. Their only black mark for me was the packaging: my last order was for a couple of small packs of metal figures and 3 pots of paint, but they arrived in a huge box that was 95% filled with those white squeezy things. _________________ Has anyone seen my little blog? |
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Duck Crusader General

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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Missing one of the mounted lads from my Romans order, just the horseman's torso though I got the horse. Two and a half weeks of e-mails and still not corrected... _________________ When you're discussing MRE's in terms of acres you know something has gotten truly screwed up. |
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Arthur Sarge

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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Timmo wrote: | Re the Warlords I can't work out why the last pikeman is about to get into the thick of the fight but his helmet is still stuck on this belt as was often the case when marching. Then again from what re-enactors have said a wide brim hat is useless for a pikeman – it gets in the way. Sorry Warlord but when I met you at Salute you told me that yours were the ONLY figures that have EVER got the head gear totally right… Hmmmm
Equally why is one guy is in fully armour with tassets but no helmet and again a wide brim hat? |
Incidentally, does anyone know if Paul Hicks did these ? Or are they the work of another sculptor ?  _________________ 'But apart from the roads, the schools, the sewer system and the efficient administration, what have the Romans ever done for us ?' |
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Timmo General

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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A.
They don't somehow look like Hicks' work to me but I could be wrong. |
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